Bariatric surgeon Dr. Eric Smith and mental-health therapist Melanie Lindell join April to begin a six-part series on metabolic health. The conversation separates what people can influence from the biology and circumstances they cannot simply will away.
What you will learn
- Why obesity requires long-term care rather than a short-term fix.
- How hunger and satiety hormones affect weight regulation.
- Where surgery and GLP-1 medications fit within comprehensive care.
- Why sleep, nutrition, movement, and mental health still matter without becoming a source of blame.
In this episode
- 04:00 — Meet Dr. Smith and Melanie Lindell
- 08:04 — The six levers of metabolic health
- 09:18 — Why biology complicates “eat less, move more”
- 23:44 — Ghrelin, leptin, and weight regulation
- 38:30 — Treatment tools and long-term habits
- 44:13 — Sleep, joy, and mental health
- 1:00:12 — Redesigning care around chronic disease
About the guests
Dr. Eric Smith is a board-certified bariatric and robotic surgeon. Melanie Lindell is a therapist, bariatric patient, BariNation board member, and licensed expert.

